Thanks Chris I have done that. Also the problem occurs even if all rods are disconnected from the lock. I am beginning to think that it is the lock mechanisms themselves that are worn, even though they initially seemed to work okay when removed from the car. I have removed one again and by fiddling with the the opening catches I can get it to lock, but then I can open the lock by pulling with my fingers. This seems to me to be the only explanation for why the doors seem to shut with a click (as per the lock engaging) but by pushing from inside you can open the doors without using the handles. What do you think? I would hate to shell out on two new mechanisms if the problem is something else, really simple, which I have overlooked.